the legacy of dr. king. i think martin luther king would agree with me if he were alive today. >> stephen: yes, dr. king would be pro-gun just as surely as jesus would be pro-nail. [ laughter ] because like mr. ward, dr. king understood that the root of all oppression is lack of firepower. [ laughter ] >> if african-americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history. [ laughter ] >> stephen: yes! if only america's founders had turned to the people they owned and chained into servitude and said, "here's your gun. use it responsibly." [ laughter ] i guess all larry ward is saying is that america would be a better place if george washington and thomas jefferson had been shot by their slaves. [ laughter ] because he's a reasonable man -- of course, not as reasonable as this debate's sanest voice the motor city madman, ted tugent! who, it turns out, is crazy for tolerance. telling worldnet daily, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america -- will be the rosa parks and we will

every conviction that if he were alive today, the rev. martin luther king would not be silent in the face of such an outrage. >> i think it's an outrage that your state spent ten years fighting to not observe dr. king's birthday. oh, and [bleep] you, arizona. >> jon: if i'm not mistaken, i believe [bleep] you arizona is the state motto of nevada. >> i didn't know that. very interesting, jon. very informative, thank you, jon. look, jon, if we are to believe the pundits, martin luther king would be in only pro-life pro gun to occupy wall street rallies. remember occupy wall street? >> jon: sort of. if martin luther king were alive today he would be here standing with these folks >> if only those occupy folks could have had a living, breathing civil lenl end there with them. oh, wait. they did. john lewis m.l.a.k.'s still alive friend and colleague was right there. hmmm. how did that go? >> congressman and civil rights icon john lewis showed up but they refused to let him speak. >> in which no singular human being >> in which no singular human being is inherently more valuable th

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